Comments on: John Woo, "Red Cliff, Part 1" (2008). http://filmeyeballsbrain.com/2008/12/29/john-woo-red-cliff-part-1-2008/ Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:14:43 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: My Blueberry Nights: The Review « Blurasis http://filmeyeballsbrain.com/2008/12/29/john-woo-red-cliff-part-1-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-43 My Blueberry Nights: The Review « Blurasis Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:51:27 +0000 http://filmeyeballsbrain.wordpress.com/?p=358#comment-43 [...] good to see non Asians acting but there was something missing that should have been added in the film. Felt that WKW incorporated all his old films all into one. Old films being Days Of Being Wild, [...] [...] good to see non Asians acting but there was something missing that should have been added in the film. Felt that WKW incorporated all his old films all into one. Old films being Days Of Being Wild, [...]

]]> By: valeriesoe http://filmeyeballsbrain.com/2008/12/29/john-woo-red-cliff-part-1-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-39 valeriesoe Thu, 01 Jan 2009 20:02:15 +0000 http://filmeyeballsbrain.wordpress.com/?p=358#comment-39 It will take a long time to run out of Francis Ng movies as he's been around a long time. Luckily many of them are out of print so I can't access them or I'd be in danger of bleeding eyeballs. His newest movie looks fun--does he have a cat on his head or is it just zany Hong Kong art direction run wild? http://www.24framespersecond.net/index.php?/24frames/news_details/first-stills-for-francis-ngs-martial-arts-actioner-zhui-ying/ It will take a long time to run out of Francis Ng movies as he’s been around a long time. Luckily many of them are out of print so I can’t access them or I’d be in danger of bleeding eyeballs. His newest movie looks fun–does he have a cat on his head or is it just zany Hong Kong art direction run wild?

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]]> By: B. Vergara http://filmeyeballsbrain.com/2008/12/29/john-woo-red-cliff-part-1-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-42 B. Vergara Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:16:18 +0000 http://filmeyeballsbrain.wordpress.com/?p=358#comment-42 Valerie: You haven't run out of Francis Ng movies yet?? Barb: I'm not sure about the "bromance" part (thanks again to Oscar for the term), but surely "The Seven Samurai" inaugurated (or at least revivified) the whole male warrior ensemble genre, from "The Dirty Dozen" to "The Wild Bunch". I haven't seen the Kurosawa film often enough to remember clearly (I know you have), but I do recall individual recruitment scenes for each samurai. Whether they were individually delineated as "the crazy one", "the angry one", "the taciturn tactician", "the haunted one", etc., I don't know. "Red Cliff" has a similar scene (musician / teacher / scholar / sandalweaver), but Jackson didn't have to do much to set the Fellowship apart, as their "races" were enough (an elf, three hobbits, a human wizard, a dwarf, etc.). I read Tolkien too long ago to remember if the books worked in the same way. Valerie: You haven’t run out of Francis Ng movies yet??

Barb: I’m not sure about the “bromance” part (thanks again to Oscar for the term), but surely “The Seven Samurai” inaugurated (or at least revivified) the whole male warrior ensemble genre, from “The Dirty Dozen” to “The Wild Bunch”. I haven’t seen the Kurosawa film often enough to remember clearly (I know you have), but I do recall individual recruitment scenes for each samurai. Whether they were individually delineated as “the crazy one”, “the angry one”, “the taciturn tactician”, “the haunted one”, etc., I don’t know.

“Red Cliff” has a similar scene (musician / teacher / scholar / sandalweaver), but Jackson didn’t have to do much to set the Fellowship apart, as their “races” were enough (an elf, three hobbits, a human wizard, a dwarf, etc.). I read Tolkien too long ago to remember if the books worked in the same way.

]]> By: Barbara Jane Reyes http://filmeyeballsbrain.com/2008/12/29/john-woo-red-cliff-part-1-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Barbara Jane Reyes Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:46:43 +0000 http://filmeyeballsbrain.wordpress.com/?p=358#comment-41 Hey Sunny thanks for this review. Yes, after the immediate response to the glitz wears off, there is this questioning of what was the narrative again? Anyway, and here I was thinking we were just being jackasses about the Fellowship of the Ring; makes me wonder whether that bromantic warrior fellowship thing (each a Gimli, a Legolas, an Aragorn, et al) become a film cliche because of Jackson (or Tolkien for that matter), or was it already a cliche that Jackson used and that we forgave him for. Hey Sunny thanks for this review. Yes, after the immediate response to the glitz wears off, there is this questioning of what was the narrative again?

Anyway, and here I was thinking we were just being jackasses about the Fellowship of the Ring; makes me wonder whether that bromantic warrior fellowship thing (each a Gimli, a Legolas, an Aragorn, et al) become a film cliche because of Jackson (or Tolkien for that matter), or was it already a cliche that Jackson used and that we forgave him for.

]]> By: valeriesoe http://filmeyeballsbrain.com/2008/12/29/john-woo-red-cliff-part-1-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-40 valeriesoe Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:22:03 +0000 http://filmeyeballsbrain.wordpress.com/?p=358#comment-40 Great review! Many of my thoughts, esp. the hollowness of much of the film. Thanks for adding me to the blogroll, which is another incentive to write more. PS: I didn't watch any Francis Ng movies yesterday. I feel empty somehow. Great review! Many of my thoughts, esp. the hollowness of much of the film. Thanks for adding me to the blogroll, which is another incentive to write more. PS: I didn’t watch any Francis Ng movies yesterday. I feel empty somehow.

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